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Last night I received an e-mail in which someone asks to sign a petition to have Microsoft put XQuery support in the .NET Framework 2.0. Now I would like to support a good cause, but before doing so, I would also like to be sure what it is that I should support. A litte digging is in order. Now I do know something about XQuery, but since it's not natively supported in .NET 1.1 there always seemed to be other ways to get somewhere.

So what's this e-mail then? Well, appearantly some marketing consultancy firm picked up on the result of the VB6 petition. They were hired by DataDirect, the division that develops Stylus Studio, part of the Progress Software Corporation. In the e-mail MVPs are asked to sign the petition.

And by the looks of it, many MVPs already signed. Or have they? Wait a minute. There a quite a few MVPs, and surely I don't know all of them. But the Dutch MVP community is not that large and the Dutch names on the list do not seem familiar. Many of the names (Dutch and otherwise) are not listed in the MVP directory. So what's this. A scam? A form of miscommunication, a computer glitch, misjudgement?

While it may have been done with the best intentions, the way this call for support is set up it will amount to nothing. It looks to me that the marketing firm saw the effects of the VB6 petition and decided to go ahead and copy that. It won't work, especially when you make everyone signing the petitition an MVP.

And as far as my opinion for XQuery support is concerned? Well, I do understand why Microsoft does not want to support a not-quite-yet-a-standard in the framework. And I'm sure that when it's final, Microsoft (like they did with Web Services) or any other firm will gladly offer an implementation for .NET. And they won't be the only one.

posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 8:12 AM



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# re: XQuery support, MVPs and petition season 4/29/2005 9:54 AM Frans Bouma
This is low, very low.

# re: XQuery support, MVPs and petition season 4/30/2005 1:41 AM Phillip "Molly" Malone
I think you make a fair point about the MVP's. From my read, it looks like it is an automatically generated page and as such, makes the asmuption that if you say your an MVP you are an MVP.

Molly

# A great post and a new Quote of the Day 5/2/2005 5:17 PM <XSLT:Blog />
[UPDATE: I recently receive a pointer to this posting in which the following paragraph makes this situation all the more interesting: And by the looks of it, many MVPs already signed. Or have they? Wait a minute. There a quite...

# re: XQuery support, MVPs and petition season 5/13/2005 6:05 AM Phillip "Molly" Malone
Would seem that Stylus have taken your critism onboard (well not sure they took yours particularly) and have appeared they saw the list as wrong and change the emphasis of it.

I guess you could argue it was wrong of them to assume that people would only choose the MVP status if they were an MVP.

Molly

# re: XQuery support, MVPs and petition season 5/13/2005 7:19 AM Sander
Your right. They changed the list. Will it help? At this stage in the releaseplanning of .NET 2.0, I very much doubt it.

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